I bought these to make a complete set of 8 - 12 oz glasses to go with the pitcher and 4 - 12oz glasses. These are 8oz glasses. They are markedly shorter than the glasses with the pitcher. They are pretty, but very thin. I will keep them because I like them, but I wanted a set of 8. Now I have 4 of two sizes and have no desire to buy more unless I catch them on sale. This is not HSN quality control norm. What's that about Colin???